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Post by MikDaTv on Sept 22, 2006 1:03:11 GMT -5
I said "in a way" which means imitate... ok, i can accept cheap immitation, except it isn't cheap. like i said before. droids of this nature are pointless for warfare, because, see. you spend 80,000,000, credits on far fewer droids then you would get regular troops for the same amount of money. then, these things called planes fly over and drop these things called bombs on them. oops, 80,000,000 credits down the tube. |
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Post by Darth Nergul on Sept 22, 2006 1:08:27 GMT -5
Electricuting, blowing people away, throwing your lightsaber at them. I think it's well worth the money.
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Post by MikDaTv on Sept 22, 2006 1:14:18 GMT -5
then they get shot at with disruptors, get bombed, reprogramed to fight for the other side, get shot with blasters (wich they can't block), get crushed, throwing their lightsaber at an enemy, thus dissarming them since they can't call it back.
you know what, go ahead. do whatever you want. you want to make it easy for your enemies thats your choice.
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Post by Darth Nergul on Sept 22, 2006 1:19:01 GMT -5
Corded lightsabers. Extended arms. People can get crushed. People can get bombed... disrupters don't matter, they could block the blaster shots with their lightsabers, and if they do get reprogrammed, I'll reprogram again. If you're going to say they'll prevent it, then I'll prevent it from happening in the first place. Humans can't be mass produced quickly. Clones take too long. Droids own.
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Post by MikDaTv on Sept 22, 2006 1:29:23 GMT -5
droids are fine, lightsaber wielding droids are stupid.
Disruptors would melt your droids when they explode on impact with the lightsaber.
people can be crushed, bombed ect, ect. but people are a hell of a lot cheaper, smarter and can shoot back at planes with their guns. lightsaber droids are going to do what exactly to planes? wave their swords in the air?
Droids can't use the force and therfore don't know when or where blaster bolts are going to hit them ahead of time. and before you say the droids have top of the line proccessors and reaction times... Darth used 4 armed lightsaber weilding droids for saber practice yet these droids fell to blasterfire with ease. and they were top of the line droids 2000 years into the future of your droids.
and humans don't mass produce quickly? what kind of ulternate, sexless universe do you live in.
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Post by Darth Nergul on Sept 22, 2006 1:34:29 GMT -5
Yes we all know when people are born, they are born full-grown, fully trained soldiers. Droids don't need training, or need to grow up. Droids still can block blaster fire. If you look at General Grevious in Lego Star Wars, he spins two lightsabers in a circle, deflecting any lightsaber bolts. The droids also can be equiped with blasters. When did disrupters melt down droids? I thought they umm disrupted their systems... and everyone approved lightsaber-weilding droids a long time ago. Read the Old Stories.
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Post by MikDaTv on Sept 22, 2006 1:56:42 GMT -5
disruptors are very, VERY powerfull blaster's, to the point where they can damage starship hulls. your thinking of Ion Cannons or EMP bombs. which, come to think of it, would also be excelent weapons for bringing down droids. Ion cannon blasts would disable them and their lightsabers. EMP grenades would do the same.
and people arn't born soldiers true, but you don't have to look to baybies for troops, just look to the generation previous to yours, and so on and so on.
now i'm not arguing against the use of lightsaber droids. like i said before, they are very common, used as body guards and such for Hutt's and mob bosses. I'm just stating that for use in formal military they are next to useless.
i can't believe your useing a LEGO game for an argument but here it goes. sure, if you spinn the sabers to make a sort of spartain shield you may avoid blaster shots for awhile. but one will eventually slip through. also, using the sabers in such a way means you can't angle the shots back at the source and the droid is still vulnerable to concussion grenades, thermal detonators, ion cannons, disruptors and EMP's.
now, if your going to also equip your droids with blasters... um... why bother with lightsabers. killing an enemy 100 feet away is always better then killing them at 3 feet.
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Post by Zilfer Of Shadows... on Sept 22, 2006 16:53:37 GMT -5
yeah, except then their right in your face mik. ok heres my say.
Droids' if their high tech, they should be have better reaction times be able to redirrect blasterfire back to the original sender better, also be able to throw their lightsaber's redicualously far. and from what you said lightsabers are cheap so i driod could have lightsabers up to like 50 on them for all i know, becuase you say they where hella cheap and comparing the to the droid it wouldnt see much of a problem. now i'm not saying driods are better then human's but their are times where driods are better then humans.
we could argue if driods or humans are more deadly. considering they shoot more accutaly, faster reaction time, can proably pull the trigger faster too. And about being his by the fire comin at you? if its enough to freakin melt a driod its going to tear a jedi apart as well. burn his skin off most likely. so whats your point their, is happens anyways from what i heard you tell me.
Btw if you ask that question then think about this, why did luke have a blaster and a lightsaber eh?
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Post by Darth Nergul on Sept 22, 2006 17:21:56 GMT -5
Anyways, an army cannot only have lightsabers or blasters. My army consists of both. Blasters pick off people better when they are far apart, but when they are in a clustered formation, then it's best to use a Force Lighting or a Force Push. Lightsabers also have better accuracy, you don't have to reload, and you can continue to cut through large groups. Droids never age, have no fear, follow orders, don't need training, don't take up food, and they don't waste human life.
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Post by bruinfamer on Sept 23, 2006 10:01:15 GMT -5
Well, Nergul, good luck against mine.....
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Post by MikDaTv on Sept 23, 2006 11:35:38 GMT -5
yeah, except then their right in your face mik. ok heres my say. Droids' if their high tech, they should be have better reaction times be able to redirrect blasterfire back to the original sender better, also be able to throw their lightsaber's redicualously far. and from what you said lightsabers are cheap so i driod could have lightsabers up to like 50 on them for all i know, becuase you say they where hella cheap and comparing the to the droid it wouldnt see much of a problem. now i'm not saying driods are better then human's but their are times where driods are better then humans. we could argue if driods or humans are more deadly. considering they shoot more accutaly, faster reaction time, can proably pull the trigger faster too. And about being his by the fire comin at you? if its enough to freakin melt a driod its going to tear a jedi apart as well. burn his skin off most likely. so whats your point their, is happens anyways from what i heard you tell me. Btw if you ask that question then think about this, why did luke have a blaster and a lightsaber eh? Answer to first paragraph: Ok, they are in my face, and then their dead after i shoot them. Plus the chances of them getting to close are slim since i'm capping their ass at 200 feet. Answer to the second paragraph: Droids do not have such reaction times. Lando's Yuzhaan Vong hunting droids were top of the line and their reaction time and accuracy was only slightly better then an average trooper. and Lando has 2000 years of advancement on us. Now lightsabers, are very cheap, made from very common parts. but you bring up an interesting point. Lightsabers can't be stamped out in a factory. the force is used in their construction so mass producing lots of them for an army will be difficult to say the least. Also, only the Jedi and the Sith know how to construct them and it's a closely guarded secret by both factions. Answer to the third paragraph: your not taking my point. Droids certainly are usefull war machines, but keep in mind the CIS drove the republic to the breaking point with their dumb ass battle droids. making an army of super advanced lightsaber wielding droids who shoot lightning out of their ass and blast air from their eyes just isn't cost effective. remeber, in war, "perfection" is always victimimized by "good enough." I'm not arguing one is better then the other, i'm just stating that his army of uber droids can get their ass handed to them by far cheaper units. Answer to the last paragraph: Luke had a blaster because he didn't know how to use the lightsaber yet. in ROTJ he just had his saber. He also has a saber for the symbol it represents, not so much as a weapon. |
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Post by Zilfer Of Shadows... on Sept 24, 2006 15:25:51 GMT -5
lol, true.
i never said they couldnt get their ass handed to them, but if they where used effectily they would be a whole lot better.
second of all, mik, on a battle feild in the open you might be able to get me from 200 feet away, but one its not likely, 2 that only works on a "open" battle feild, and most battle feilds have something to hide behind.
droids dont have faster reaction times? well how come my computer cant think faster then me?
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Post by bruinfamer on Sept 24, 2006 18:16:49 GMT -5
It's because.........
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Post by Darth Nergul on Sept 24, 2006 20:45:02 GMT -5
Gah close this already.
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Post by MikDaTv on Sept 24, 2006 21:01:51 GMT -5
your computer doesn't think... it calculates. and it can only calculate an incredibly small fraction of what your brain calculates on a daily basis.
think about it, loading a web page and dodging a bullet are to incredibly different things.
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