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Post by Zilfer Of Shadows... on Jun 25, 2007 20:28:41 GMT -5
lol.^ i'll go with what he said on D
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Post by sancom on Aug 4, 2007 5:30:40 GMT -5
Single hilt, standard length, because honestly range doesn't matter with a freaking lightsaber, you could just bring in the blade close to your body, horizontally, and push forward. Zap, other guy, cut in half. and single hilts give way more freedom than double, or duel, because with duel, it requires way more concentration, and you couldn't pay much attention to the situation around you. Singles are also better, because it does give you some length between you and your enemy, because who would be stupid enough to just rush at someone with a lightsaber, with a dagger? They had better knock the saber out of the way before the attack.
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Post by Lord Abel on Aug 5, 2007 16:19:55 GMT -5
Single, too much concentration is required with either of the other two, concentration that could be spent focusing on your enemy.
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Post by sancom on Aug 6, 2007 6:34:59 GMT -5
exactly. no one seems to tie concentration with fighting, unless it is while they are fighting.
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Post by bruinfamer on Aug 6, 2007 6:39:58 GMT -5
Single is easier to deflect blaster bolts against blaster wielding enemies as well......
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Post by Lord Bryz on Aug 6, 2007 15:23:38 GMT -5
Definitly Dual, It is easier to use. My gu on Kotor own Kreia at the End with like 3 hits it's awesome
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Post by Cain on Aug 6, 2007 17:34:58 GMT -5
My reason for using the single blade was that my main weapon in battle is the force, not my lightsaber. Only having to weild one frees up my hands more and is less distracting. Also I enjoy the old school feel of the lone single bladed lightsaber.
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Post by Zilfer Of Shadows... on Aug 6, 2007 18:31:25 GMT -5
There's a reason you train more with duel and double bladed lightsabers so you dont have to consentrate, fighting you shouldn't have to FOCUS or CONSENTRATE. You shouldn't have to think about it, just do. Action and reaction. If you think to much then you cannot use duel or double forms cus you spend to much time on thinking and not enough on acting or watching your oppenent. Same with the single bladed lightsabers if they keep thinking of their next follow up move before it happens then their plan could be foiled in a fraction of a second and then they still still be focused on their old plan.
Anyways, it does take more skill with duel and double i'll give you that. I've liked double ever since i saw maul use it and saw how usefull it could be if you mastered it. Let alone i like being able to break from double bladed lightsaber to duel lightsaber for a surprize on the enemy but anyways.
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Post by Sess Fett on Aug 14, 2007 3:23:39 GMT -5
I like single, Its to the point and just as good. Its something i like better and i just prefer it
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Post by Juliet Burke on Aug 17, 2007 14:17:33 GMT -5
It is deffinetly single-bladed. Also, it is strictly prohibited by the Jedi Counsil to you a double-bladed lightsaber so thats striked out for me. Two lightsabers give you too much stregnth and not enough defense. That is jsut my opinion as being in the lightside
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Post by Darth Hades on Nov 23, 2007 13:23:27 GMT -5
i like due a lot but a Skilled Jedi or Sith just needs one to kick ass.
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Post by MikDaTv on Nov 29, 2007 1:56:31 GMT -5
There's a reason you train more with duel and double bladed lightsabers so you dont have to consentrate, fighting you shouldn't have to FOCUS or CONSENTRATE. You shouldn't have to think about it, just do. Action and reaction. If you think to much then you cannot use duel or double forms cus you spend to much time on thinking and not enough on acting or watching your oppenent. Same with the single bladed lightsabers if they keep thinking of their next follow up move before it happens then their plan could be foiled in a fraction of a second and then they still still be focused on their old plan. Anyways, it does take more skill with duel and double i'll give you that. I've liked double ever since i saw maul use it and saw how usefull it could be if you mastered it. Let alone i like being able to break from double bladed lightsaber to duel lightsaber for a surprize on the enemy but anyways. Ok. A: Yes, you want to think during a fight. People who don't think, are called brain dead... or just dead. B: You didn't see how useful it could be in a fight. You saw how cool it can look in a well choreographed, well practiced dance. which brings me back to a point i make frequently. Lightsaber "Forms" and "Styles" are for dancing, not fighting. It's like Fencing. you can be a master Fencer and then get pwned in the ass by a street punk with a knife, because while your busy dancing around, he's busy trying to kill you.
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Post by Zilfer Of Shadows... on Nov 29, 2007 12:23:17 GMT -5
A: yes you have to THINK about your attacks, but blocking and parrying should be second nature, you shouldn't have to THINK DOWN LEFT BLOCK PUSH UP RIGHT WHILE SLIDING BACK THEN FORWARD LUNGE! that will fuck you up in a fight, i should be almost instinct.
B: i saw how usefull it could be IF the lightsaber couldn't cut through the middle, like the real weapon would be. To me it looked like you could block a single bladed weapon easily with that in the middle and while there blade is stuck against yours you can side swipe them while forcing their lightsaber at the same time. BTW MOST MARTIAL'S FORMS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DANCE LIKE, i beleive sword play should be the same. If you really are good at martial arts it should be like a dance, whether your fighting life and death or not. as for a fencer getting ownd by a dagger in the street? It depends on the person, if their both using sharp swords, and if the fencer doesn't have a problem with killing someone. Though i'll give you that i know almost nothing about fencing. I'd imagin their swords are longer then a dagger, and with longer range i think it would be a Large advantage. Though fencing isn't about slashing i do beleive.
But my point was mik, that if your fighting someone, and they go to say punch you, shouldn't have to think a goddamn think to be able to block it, or dodge it, now your counter move you can think about, even while you dodge/block, becuase you should be able to do that automaticaly. And if we add the force, you should be able to master the double blade to an uncanny masterfullness with it. Anyways done talking for now. =P
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Post by MikDaTv on Nov 29, 2007 16:17:55 GMT -5
you might not know your thinking about it, you might even react without realizing it, but there's still quite a bit of thought process going on. The best fighters can focus on it and change it instead of just pure reaction instinct. Point is, blocking, stabbing, thrusting, slashing, pulling the trigger and pushing the button all require thinking, a great deal of thinking.
And yes, a lot of martial arts are very dance like (but certainly not all. Judo, Boxing, Military CQC training, ect.), which is why when you take a martial arts class your instructor will tell you "Don't use this on a real person in a self defense environment." No matter what Jackie Chan or Bruce Lee do in movies, i guarantee you they wouldn't drop into some jacked up wide leg stance with their fingers up and out and start breathing like morons.
and yes, a street punk will kill a fencer even with a tinny butterfly knife against a foil. Because the fencer is busy dancing, trying to get that perfect heart shot, and the punk is trying to stab you anywhere and take your wallet.
All of this combined then demands that i point to one of my many Axioms. "Guns = The Great Equalizer"
and it's also why Jor (Or any of my characters for that matter) won't use a "Saber style." Because in all honesty, they are very limiting.
now, as long as we're using Mauls duel as an example, it's prudent to point out that Maul LOST, that duel. He got cut in half and dropped down a very... very, long hole.
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Post by Darth Nergul on Nov 29, 2007 19:28:13 GMT -5
I've had a lightsaber fight with two of my buddies (sad really lol). I had dual and they had single. They were both against me and well, I did pretty well. I don't remember really (must've banged up my head real bad?), but I can say that it does have advantages. You have another blade ready to cut up your opponents. The even better part is that real lightsabers are weightless! I did use one blade for defense and one for attack. I think I lost in the end (2 vs. 1?) It did require me to think, even when blocking (duh). If I didn't have to concentrate, I would be thinking about hot chicks (teehee. By the way, how are you liking these little comments?).
Martial Arts. Boy oh boy. Lots of stuff really is like a dance, but some aren't (btw, Bruce Lee could do all that stuff... but he's dead...) You learn about what you would do against an armed man if you don't have a gun (have to be pretty lucky if that guy doesn't shoot you before you pull it off. Roundhouse kick?) I don't expect myself to use those forms in real life (yes, I do take Martial Arts!), but parts can help. Sparring is awesome (not really...)
In the end... just get a gun?
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