Operating System S.I.C.F.S.

[貪欲]

The S.I.C.F.S. (Singularity Integration Combat/Flight System) System is a technology for interfacing the brain of the pilot with the ship's A.I. and mainframe.. The S.I.C.F.S. system decreases the pilot's reaction times as there is no need for traditional visual interfaces. Furthermore, thanks to the advanced computations performed by the computer, the pilot can become aware of future outcomes and possible courses of action that can be taken to achieve total victory or total defeat.

However, due to this direct brain interface, as the human brain cannot process the raw data, the system will cause the pilot to vividly "hallucinate" the possible paths that the pilot can take; as the pilot tries to figure out what is going on, the system can overload the brain with too many statistics and estimated
The S.I.C.F.S. System's frequent hallucinations triggered by the pilot's psyche. values, causing temporary insanity.

The S.I.C.F.S. System was developed to be an interactive interface between a human pilot and the ship. The system computes the results of possible courses of action, and the pilot considers these and mentally feeds directions back to the system. What this means is that the pilot knows the result of his actions before he performs them. The system is programmed to think tactically, so that the options that it feeds the pilot might include civilian death or unnecessary destruction. It is up to the pilot to guide the system and lend it a conscience, so the relationship becomes a balance of emotion and logic. Another advantage of S.I.C.F.S. System is its ability to offer physical stimulus back to the pilot, allowing him to feel the strain that the ship is undergoing. This causes great physical and emotional stress on the pilot, but allows the ship to become an extension of the pilot's thoughts and movements.

This operating system was created and tested by a group of engineers and scientist that came together with the single motion of creating one of the superiors capable fighters. Though tested to be useless within groups the results of a single armed vessel were that of over two hundred percent. With the rapid processing and calculation system placed within a single ships mainframe and with only one crew to man the ship the results were well beyond that of what the creators had expected. Using small implants within the brain they were able to limit the amount of mental damage received to the pilot by either the system or A.I. where small cases of lost identity were reported being the cause of A.I. control over said being.

Due to the extreme mental strain on its users, Zero System could never be used on a wide scale. It can literally tear a users mind apart if they are not strong willed. By placing A.I.'s into the system they were able to significantly able to lower the human psyche's chance of breaking down and resulting in lost of sanity. They achieved the perfect single soldier fighting system to have crossed the galaxy.

Though it was ultimately scraped for the over taxing side effects of the pilot the system remained a good use for solo suicide mission against mere chance of odds. This was however later scraped as most would prefer to train their soldiers instead of relay on a operating system with dangerous side effects.

[MikDaTv]

i'm having trouble seeing how any of this would provide an advantage for the pilot. Sure, you destroy your mind in the process, but hey, you can fire your weapons just by thinking it.

It doesn't give you any significant advantage over another pilot in a dogfight other then a minimal boost in performance in that you no longer have to translate what you want to do to a movement of your hands on the flight stick or yolk.

if you try and put it on a capitol ship, linking it to a single operator, i'd say no way this would work, with the pilot maintaining his individuality/sanity.

you go into mentioning that the system would give you feedback on your actions so that the pilot will know what happens before he does them. Well, not to sound condescending, but if you don't know what your doing before you do them then you shouldn't be piloting a multimillion dollar vehicle.

The biggest question of all though, is that if this system is so intelligent, why does it need a pilot at all? I mean, after a certain point, these scientist you have would be like, what the hell, why don't we just give the thing a droid brain. It's cheaper, and it doesn't require risky, invasive surgery.

thought control is fine. Don't get me wrong. I have no issues with someone being able to pilot a vessel using their thoughts. US Air Force has been working on it for a while now with limited success.

I also don't have an issue with being plugged into a machine. obviously there's cyborgs in the Star Wars universe. Jor himself is irreversibly linked to the XAN suit's computer. But your talking about connection on a whole new level of direct interface and i'm just having trouble seeing a justification.

I get the What, and the How. I'm struggling with the Why. Why was this designed, and why would a pilot even consider using it?

[Drake]

Zero system from Gundam Wing

[MikDaTv]

Feb 14, 2010 5:24:32 GMT -5 Drake said:

Zero system from Gundam Wing

And this is where i lost all interest in this idea.

[Drake]

You're welcome Mik...

[Ragasaurus-Rex]

Feb 14, 2010 5:28:39 GMT -5 MikDaTv said:

Feb 14, 2010 5:24:32 GMT -5 Drake said:

Zero system from Gundam Wing

I thought the same exact thing when i read the name, Then reading into it, It sounds a lot like what heero went through when piloting the epyon. And the general Zero system all together...But maybe that's just me.

And this is where i lost all interest in this idea.

It seems the simplest things cause you to lose interest...

[Elifain]

miks interest isn't the question rag! neither is his lack-there-of!
Back to the point. I would ask, why not use an A.I. to do this. They are inteligent, and depending on how you rp them, can go with the intelligence of a computer, and tactics they would use, and temper them with a sort of emotion. *again, how you rp them.*

[貪欲]

Those are all options to be considered and yes this was originally from the animated series Gundam Wing. The simplest answer that I can offer (such is what I see as the best answer presentable to this site) is that the "Why" as Mik pointed out would be RP preference. Sure you can use a A.I. to do all of this, and perhaps you wouldn't want to risk your sanity with something as simple as your ship mainframe but the root of all is just "How do you want to make your RP experience better for you?"

Besides there are many things within the Star Wars universe that don't really have to be there (I bet if you thought about it you could think of a few) it's all about opinion and preference to that person. This isn't really the question that I'm asking though, I was referring to "Will this be allowed usage within the BHOD universe?" That is all I was asking and if the case be that it isn't oh well I can try again with another idea on a different topic.

Anyhow it could be modified in almost any fashion I just chose to place in this way as it would be my preference. As I've mentioned earlier you could use an A.I. or something else to use this system, it's just up to you really.

[MikDaTv]

Oh, there's plenty of things that shouldn't be in Star Wars. Like the prequel trilogy, and Children of the Jedi.

my point is, in a universe where an advanced A.I. can be constructed by a 9 year old in a junkyard, what purpose would this solve. I mean it's fine if you want to have a character who's driven insane by mechanical implants. They already have that, it's called Cybernetic Psychosis ( starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Cybernetic_Psychosis ).

i'm just having an issue with believing a character could look at this system and say... "Yes, this is a good idea, i should do this."

again though, i have no cause to say it can't be done. i did something similar with Jor and your just taking it a step further. (you may want to have a look at the XAN suit page on the BATROID Wiki.) As long as you don't put another thread in here for a giant humanoid robot vehicle i have no complaints. but here's a question. What happens when Rita hacks into this guys wireless network? or he gets hit with an Ion Cannon while plugged into this thing?

Trying to port one science fiction into another is difficult. Trying to port a Cartoon science fiction into something as massive as Star Wars is even harder, especially considering how far ahead star wars is technologically compared to gundum.

[貪欲]

Actually considering the injury of the ship to the pilots mental health I was thinking that the A.I. would block out the phantom pain from effecting them. Yes, I do see your point though about why a PC (player character) would say that this is a good idea but then again that's talking about preference and everyone's different. Returning to my point if in the case of hacking into the Z.E.R.O. system if you could get passed the A.I.'s defenses and then get around the chip implants firewall then I suppose you could basically cause the pilot to hallucinations of whatever information that chose to insert into the system.

Though this could be devastating to the whole operation of using the Z.E.R.O. system this is also true for any operating system that relays on a A.I. or intelligence to integrate some conscious to pilot or ship alone anything really. This system would most likely only work for smaller ships and or solo fighters.

(FYI: I would never submit a post for a new idea od a large mechanical bot from which this is originally from. That's cliche', moronic, and pointless to even attempt to integrate something that really does not fit at all within the Star Wars Universe. Just felt like saying that, Mik.)

[Kyllian]

Uh, quick referance to something cartoon related:

Shadow Arts> Naruto (shadow clone), the ability to go into a dif. dimension like the void (Shao Lin Showdown-Tiger Claws) , Cain's Personality (Naruto again - Sasuke), Body suit (Iron Man, Gundam, Armored Core, MechWarrior), weapon augmented cyborgs (Ghost in the Shell, Mega Man, Astro Boy)

the list goes on ^.^

even cartoons with no scifi have had an influence lol

[MikDaTv]

Feb 14, 2010 15:15:06 GMT -5 貪欲 said:

(FYI: I would never submit a post for a new idea od a large mechanical bot from which this is originally from. That's cliche', moronic, and pointless to even attempt to integrate something that really does not fit at all within the Star Wars Universe. Just felt like saying that, Mik.)

not saying you would. But it's been done before.

could you do me a favor though. at least change the name. Zoning & Emotional Range Omitted doesn't even make sense. Its like they needed something to spell out Zero so they threw a bunch of big words together and hoped their target audience was to young to understand/care.

Feb 14, 2010 19:14:39 GMT -5 Kyllian said:

Uh, quick referance to something cartoon related:

Shadow Arts> Naruto (shadow clone), the ability to go into a dif. dimension like the void (Shao Lin Showdown-Tiger Claws) , Cain's Personality (Naruto again - Sasuke), Body suit (Iron Man, Gundam, Armored Core, MechWarrior), weapon augmented cyborgs (Ghost in the Shell, Mega Man, Astro Boy)

the list goes on ^.^

even cartoons with no scifi have had an influence lol

ok, did you really just say Shao Lin Showdown? How am i supposed to respect you when you toss of something like that. Anyway, Shadow Arts would come from a multitude of inspirations, some of which are real life actual ninjas in i'm not mistaken. I don't believe Naruto was anywhere in the thought process for it, and for good reason. It's a terrible show.

Cain's personality? you'll have to talk to him about that, but i seriously doubt it came from an Anime. In fact i'd go so far as to say Palpatine would be a pretty good start as far as Cain's personality goes.

Powered Armor? Really Iron man? Gundam, a game no one has ever played and Mechwarrior are the best you got? considering walking mechs were around in star wars before Mechwarrior and armored core and i think Gundam were ever thought of. All my powered armors are inspired by Starship Troopers which was published in 1959, but even still, i didn't directly port their technology over because it wouldn't have worked. Several weeks of research went into everything i started from scratch on, like Jor's armor. If anyone is ever interested in writting up a suit of self powered armor i always suggest this be read first ( www.dcr.net/~stickmak/JOHT/joht15poweredarmor.htm )

weapon augmented cyborgs have been around in Star Wars since 1977. It was most likely the inspiration for Mechwarrior. And if your seriously considering astro boy as an inspiration for something you want to introduce, let me know now so i can have a rebuttal ready for you.

However, because you seem to have missed my point entirely, i'll explain it again, slowly.

Cartoons, allow the suspension of even the most basic laws of physics. watching one of those gundams zip around in space effortlessly, shooting guns and lasers and missiles all over the place is an obvious example of that. You try and port something like that over to Star Wars, and it will either be...

A- so primitive that a Gamorean in a Headhunter could handle it no problem.

Or B- as i believe is true in this case, advanced but ridiculously ineffective as well as no where near cost efficient.

[貪欲]

All things considered Mik what would you suggest naming it?Seeing as your focus was turned to Ron's/ Kyllian's cartoon motion/reference. I don't really care for the name as long as the main idea remains intact, quire frankly I didn't change the name merely out of my fan based used of the shows' material.

Quickly returning to point how about naming it Singlurity Integration Combat/Flight System (S.I.C/F.S.) instead? Any suggestions are welcome people as long as they are within reason.

[Zero]

_{You had to name it Zero, of all things, which happens to be my main charries name. I will leave you to try to win against Mik now.}

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[cyphertu]

what I got out this that basically that a lone pilot could in a way can have force shatterpoints without using the force. Also an AI would go for the best path for victory, depending upon it's programming. but a sentient pilot could make a choice that could save the most lives, or destroy them accordingly, depending on the characters morals, beliefs, stuff like that. You have to have a high enough willpower to be able to tell hallicination from what's around you, so you don't have a raw data overload into your brain. I would personally say to further go into detail as to what the prerequisites are to sucessfully use this program, like stat limitations and what they are, and how they affect the user accordingly. Also if invasive brain surgery is needed to be done for a pilot, you have a Lobot. essentially, what I'm saying is that pilot would be the ship, which would only be pratical in ships like super star destroyers.

as for hack protection, hardwire it, isolate it, put up a powerful firewall. that's what I gather