SSFEC

[Kyllian]

Name: SSFEC or Self-Sustained Force Energy Cell

This organ was invented/created by the organization known as Y-Genetics. Having tested on it for over 20 years, they have finally made a functioning, insertable body part.

Function: To utilize the force in a way as to create a sustenance for the biological host to survive upon in order to establish immortality.

What it replaces: The Stomach and Lungs

How it works:
1) The midichlorians inside the subject are genetically modified so that they become a trigger when the force flows through it

2) When the force flows through it, the midichlorian activates a the property of the SSFEC which creates a easily absorbed liquid that contains oxygen, vitamins and other essential substances that the body needs

3) Blood rushes through the organ that is made up of the SSFEC’s and easily absorbs the compounds of nutrients, vitamins and minerals and then spreads that out to the full body

4) Also, the enzymes contain proteins that flow through the blood stream and copy themselves to the dna of each cell and pushing out the old dna strips for the rest of the body to process (this stops dna degeneration)

The Cons:
-The biological host doesn’t need to eat or breath
-The Host cannot gain muscle tissue
-The Host will grow to the appearance of a 10 year old and its growth will seize from there on

[bruinfamer]

Mesuh confused :/

[Kyllian]

whatcha need clarifying?

[Gamov]

Okay, the only real question I have is.... How?

First, I assume you are "invincible" in the sense that you no longer need food or to worry about aging any more, correct? Things like lightsabers and blaster still kill you, I'd hope. Unless this technology can somehow repair that kind of damage quickly. But you didn't say that so I'm guessing getting shot is still fatal.

Even so....

1) The midichlorians inside the subject are genetically modified so that they become a trigger when the force flows through it

How are the midichlorains altered? Besides, I thought that idea wasn't ascribed to here on BHOD for an explanation to the Force (as it seems a similar idea to this revolving around midichlorains was already brought down quite recently).

2) What property is it of this artificial organ that allows it to create artificial enzymes and nutrients for the body using midichlorains?

4) This is a BIG how.... How does this thing manage to effectively kill all of your old "stupid aging DNA" and replace it with the new "smart never-age DNA"?

I dunno this idea seems it is so close to being part of a cyborg (i.e. Vader or Grievous), that it would actually be more efficient for one to go the Vader/Grievous route rather than take this alternative.

[bruinfamer]

I just wanna know where the **** you guys get this information, ya'll work for NASA?

[Kyllian]

ok so
1)what source should i utilize in order for the organ to create the enzyme? And what do i use in order for the source to be converted?

example: the current source is the Force and the thing that converts it is the modified midichlorians

what options can you guys think of?

[Odan Thos]

I don't even understand what the world you are try to do but I can tell you this, it won't get approved in its current stat. Reason, you are using technical gargon to blind people to the fact of what you are saying makes no sense.

Some intresting notes...

We do not even know why people age. what makes you think it is this way.

Gentically modifing midi-chlorians. While the there is still a large arguement (especially on this site) about their nature and existance, how do you even gentically modify them. I do not see any reasonable way to do so. All methods for genetic alterations require introduction of virus or use of radation. These are smaller then any virus (20,000 in vaders cells is a extrodinary number and I there still needs to be room for all the other stuff in the cell). So if you can not use some virus (which is a good way to do a mass change) because they are so small hidding in your cells, are you going to spend the next billion years hit each one with a little raditation hopping to get a lucky hit.

This pushing DNA out with protiens... This also does not make sense... DNA is what is read by RNA to produce protiens that you body uses. It is not made up of protiens, but nucleic acid (The NA part of the abrivation).

Finally. It only took twenty years to unlock this... In Star Wars the Midi-chlorians had been studied for 10,000 years by Jedi and doctors and they still do not understand them.

[Gamov]

Personally, I think it would be more plausible if it used the enzymes already there in the human stomach. No need to replace those with the Force or anything like that. From the looks of it, you aren't trying to build a cyborg. Rather, you are augmenting/supplementing an existing biological process already present in the human body and kicking it up to hyper speed times infinity so that the person with the device doesn't feel the effects of age anymore, nor do they require food.

I'm not a biologist or a doctor, but there seems to be something off about the formula - replace stomach/lungs with an artificial = immortality. By the by, how do the lungs factor into this equation? They would need to circulate fresh air through the body. You said a person with this device need not worry about breathing ever again. The body needs to process oxygen to filter the blood (among other things). How do they do that if you don't need to breath?

There's plenty more that goes into the processes of the body. It seems you would need to augment a whole host of other systems in order to achieve the results you are speaking of. Sure you might be able to synthesize some kind of nutrition for your body to live off of with this device (inducing production of said nutrient through some kind of stimuli - i.e. - electrical current from the body). But where exactly does that "food" come from? With no new material coming in, your body will, essentially, be recycling old material again and again (which poses a major health issue if it isn't properly digested and disposed of). And, barring that scenario, the only other option the body is left with is cannibalizing fresh stuff to make new nutrients for itself. Your body would basically eat itself.

And I'm still at a loss for how this device manages to replicate an entirely new strand of DNA to replace the old DNA. That process would be genetic, not biological, and (at its very least) would take years to complete. In that time, you could die from any number of diseases, infections, accidents, etc....

In all honesty, if it were me trying to make up a device for "immortality", I would go with something that can record your conscious mind, then be implanted into another clone or robot upon your death. The attempt to keep the existing body alive well beyond any natural expiration date is a convoluted process that can never end well.

[MikDaTv]

i believe the objective of this... whatever it is... is to grant his character immortality for whatever reason.

I think the simple solution to that would be to first research the umpteen million long lived species that are already star wars cannon, and then check out the dozen or so species that have been made for this site that are practically immortal.

[Zilfer Of Shadows...]

Well the word immortality keeps being thrown around but from what I saw, it just permanently makes him young, (like the luminos except younger which is done by a strong force connection) It makes him not have to eat or breath.... (there are plenty of species that don't need to breath and i don't know why they don't need to breathe air.)

It doesn't make him immune to a lightsaber or sickness it appears.

While I don't know the exact specific's of how he wants it to work I think it is possible to manipulate the Mediclorians. The Scepter or Marka Ragnos could increase a person's mediclorians and give them the ability to weild the force. Seriously it could make anyone and their grandma wield the force.

Taking that into account and the Luminos/Mitsukai way of maintaining youth for large amounts of time, I think if he put something in his body(if he was human) that could manipulate his mediclorians or absorb small amounts of force energy around him, it could be possible to live for a long time. If that's what he's trying to get, again I don't know about all that food and not breathing stuff.

[bruinfamer]

I am not even going to be a part of this. No offense to you dude, but I don't understand any biological thing that is ever mentioned on this site.

[Odan Thos]

Z, there are more then one type of immortality. I have no problem with immortal characters (I can because I myself have had a Luminos AND I have Celestial), what I have a problem with is the method laid out. The entire process does not make sense and full of conceptual errors. We never accept anything this poorly described. We want members to think these things through.

If it was not finals week I could work with him to get it hammed out, but I still have 4 exams and a day of travel before that point.

[Zilfer Of Shadows...]

Oh i understand that Gall, I was just offering a suggestion of how some of what he wants accomplished could be accomplished. As I said I don't know about the not needing food or anything like that, and I wasn't saying he didn't need to work the idea a bit more.

A mitsukai or luminos character would probably easily solve this guy's problem with the not aging. XD

[Moonfire]

I don't understand why most of the people on this site can't just have good ole' fashioned human/canon alien characters.

The canon stuff is great. Some of the already made up species on here are good too.

Basic law of most organics. You're born, you get old, you die. Why tamper with that? It seems much more realistic than creating artifical stomaches that keep you alive forever.

But I digress--
I have an issue with "copy themselves to the dna of each cell and pushing out the old dna strips for the rest of the body to process"

They're going to copy themselves to the DNA, and then push out said DNA, replacing it with its own? Do explain how an artifical organ can manage to this.

[Kyllian]

Ok, Zilfer hit it RIGHT on the spot.

Immortality in this case means: "immune to time" or "does not age"

I think the word you guys are looking for that makes someone invincible is well "invincible" which means: invulnerable to all afflictions, physical and mental along with immunity to harm

anyways, all this little organ is supposed to do is allow my character to be immortal, not invincible

he is basically a normal human being except because of this little organ, his body will stay the appearance of a 10 year old, he can't eat and he doesn't have to breath. Also, since he doesn't get the proper nutrients for gaining muscle, his strength is that of a 10 year old and nothing more can change that.

thanks Zilfer for the clarification

that is all