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Post by scotty795 on Dec 1, 2007 21:41:45 GMT -5
It would be a battle to see! A very good and thoughtfull match up, altough I love Pirates I would have to give the day to the ninja's.
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Post by Zilfer Of Shadows... on Dec 20, 2007 2:08:44 GMT -5
What do you mean by "the enemy Shogun". Hopefully you don't mean there were two Shoguns... A ninja who fails his first attempt at assassination is a dead one, most of the time. A movie about ninja failures is on Youtube. Its from Shogun: Total War. One example is that a ninja was disguised as a simple farmer. He was pushing what looked like a cart and his target was in front of him. The cart shot out a bolt which missed the target. The ninja then took out his sword and charged, but was cut down in one strike by the samurai (not sure if it really was a samurai). Ninja were highly feared by everyone, but that made them more aware. They would stay aware. I could give another example, but that is up to you. If ninjas were better then everyone in any type of combat, we would just use them for armies, now wouldn't we. Disguises are a ninja's best weapon. This brings me back to a picture where I saw a place being attacked. One samurai of the same clan (or it looked like it) was impaling another samurai. And guess what. The caption said that the guy who was killing the other guy was a ninja in disguise. Utter chaos. One very dangerous disguise is the geisha. Who would expect a woman servant (or was it slave.. hmm) to assassinate someone when they wanted their tea back then? I have no proof that a ninja would fall in love or not. I also don't know if they ever used guns. I know they would only use the gun if they had no other options. Love could also be distracting, but it could happen. They could also "love" their target, but in the end stab him/her in the back. Lastly, not even a ninja can dodge a bullet from a great marksman, in clear range, of course. A guard could shoot them when they're sneaking around if they aren't careful. A bullet is pretty damn fast, and unless the ninja is completely aware that a guy wants to blast his brains out, he's screwed. i see.... well i was meaning enemy lords..... not shogun but anyways. Ninja's historicaly where supposed to be better then samurai, and they where self tuaght. Ninjas where NEEDED to win a war, becuase sometimes you had to destablize your enemy from the inside, scout, espionage, ect. And some of the tasks ninjas do could not be done by normal soldiers becuase of the code of the samurai. Bushido, which forbade those tasks as unhonorable. Some of the powerful daimyo's where actualy susspected to have been ninjas at one point. As for ninja's using guns... come on they messed around with gun power for distractions, used fire crackers, build bombs, and also shot cannons. What makes you think they wouldn't use a gun? I beleive that to be a huge sterotype for ninja's. anyways the pole shows Ninjas > pirates
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Post by Lord Abel on Dec 20, 2007 20:34:44 GMT -5
Just play assasins creed.....you'll see who the clear victor should be
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Post by Christopher Enyar on Dec 20, 2007 21:46:42 GMT -5
Wow... I post this topic expecting maybe three people to post in it, and everyone gets into it. Anyways.
I gotta say Ninja here. Most pirates were not exactly well disciplened, the guns of the time were not the greatest weapons of accurecy and working conditions, and most pirates would probably be drunk by the time a ninja arrived to kill them. In long range, Ninja would probably be hidden, wait for the enemies back to be turned, and shoot with an arrow, or even throwing knives or shuriken. Close range, Ninja. They are usually trained with a full assortment of killing moves, stunning moves, while pirates.... Pirates are not the Fist fighters of the age. I don't know who said Ninjas sucked in hand-to-hand combat, but he's dead wrong. Ninja are the ultimate killing machine of hand to hand combat. Melee weapon combat, depends what the ninja has. They have a large number of weapons, from the bo, katana, chokuto, ninchuku, etc. But, likely, Ninja again. Also, ninja are considerably more level headed then a pirate. Pirates are superstituous drunks, ninjas are trained assassins who realise one mistake could be the end.
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Post by Zilfer Of Shadows... on Dec 20, 2007 23:29:48 GMT -5
Alright everyone agree's NINJA > PIRATES woot!
btw hand to hand they have this special pointed wooden thing to actualy stun their opponent by hitting a persure point. paralizing their opponent, so yeah ninja > pirates.
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Post by Christopher Enyar on Dec 22, 2007 19:22:17 GMT -5
Yep, Case Closed, Ninja wins, Pirates die. The end. Time to move on to...
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Post by thundercavalier on Mar 26, 2008 8:22:06 GMT -5
Pirates mostly rely on brute strength and numbers to fell their ships. While there is a slight bit of tactics involved, they don't rely on it much. Pirates in the movies are much different than pirates in real life.
Also, in my opinion, ninjas could easily take any pirate off-guard and kill him quickly.
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Post by Sindri on Apr 20, 2008 17:01:48 GMT -5
I say the Ninja would totally win. Why? Go HEREI know he's not a ninja. But he might as well be!
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Post by Moonfire on Apr 20, 2008 17:16:12 GMT -5
Pirates FTW. *prepares to be attacked*
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Post by Sindri on Apr 20, 2008 17:19:19 GMT -5
But pirates are dirty and smelly. At least ninjas take baths.
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Post by Zilfer Of Shadows... on Apr 20, 2008 21:00:07 GMT -5
lol nice one. ^
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Post by fro619 on Jul 20, 2008 23:41:33 GMT -5
Luffy > Naruto
Pirates win.
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Post by Zilfer Of Shadows... on Jul 21, 2008 1:31:35 GMT -5
heh,
Nine tail fox > Luffy
thus ninja's win. =P alot of naruto characters could easily take out luffy characters. Sorry, but it's true.
SHADOW POSSESION JUTSU!
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Post by fro619 on Jul 21, 2008 1:55:14 GMT -5
>_>
Luffy IS a character, not a manga. He's from One Piece
Nine-tails is NOT a ninja, and the majority of the characters in Naruto aren't really ninjas anyway.
Pirates definitely pwn ninjas, unless the ninjas are HAX like Naruto or Sasuke.
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Post by Zilfer Of Shadows... on Jul 21, 2008 4:17:10 GMT -5
Lol, the nine tails is a beast, but that doesn't mean it can't be a ninja or your saying that chomper(the deer guy sorry if i got hi sname wrong, i forgot it at the moment) can't be a pirate. They are both sentient. =P
So your case proves nothing! hahahahaha!
anyways Ninja's rule over pirates for all the reasons discussed previously, and the poll clearly shows the ninja's dominance.
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