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Post by Zilfer Of Shadows... on Jun 4, 2006 1:49:58 GMT -5
doing small one for now....
quite the opposite. we are good that's why neither side has been wiped completely out. that is why light and dark exist. with out eachother they dont esist. our goal has not failed. you see the balancing factor is us. the switching of sides. to the jedi when there are few becuase the sith attack us anyways. and then the jedi when they are in power. you just cant comperhend that can you?
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Post by Si Quan on Jun 4, 2006 7:00:00 GMT -5
It is not because of the gray jedi that the sith or jedi are not completely wiped out. That's nobody's achievement. Sith and jedi are never wiped out because it is not a race, it is a belief. Someone along the line is going to have the same beliefs of the sith or jedi, and it all starts again. And how is interfering with jedi and sith an accomplishment?
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Post by Zilfer Of Shadows... on Jun 4, 2006 19:22:40 GMT -5
well si quan how is it not an acomplishment? attacking both sides and living to tell about it? when jedi and sith usualy dont? that sounds good to me.
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Post by philly on Jun 12, 2006 13:29:28 GMT -5
sounds pretty crappy to me.
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Post by Lord Nexus on Jun 12, 2006 13:31:33 GMT -5
lol
I have become one with the Darkness!
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Post by Darth Nergul on Jun 16, 2006 16:50:18 GMT -5
I don't really have time to read all of this but I have one thing to say about Gray Jedi that might have already been said. Of course I know Cain said that Gray Jedi don't want to pick either side, it's because they want power, but don't want to be hated. They're too afraid to do so, but then they sometimes are hated because they are mysterious. It gets irritating if we should trust them or not. Gray Jedi can be a good idea, but it makes you too weak to choose what you really want to do. The Jedi and Sith know what they want, as Cain said. In conclusion, basically Gray Jedi are rejects from the Sith because they can't be harsh or anything.
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Post by Darth Nergul on Jun 16, 2006 16:53:09 GMT -5
P.S. We need George Lucas here. What he says what the Jedi and Sith do, then it is what they do. He can even say the Gray Jedi never existed lol. Also... ATTENTION! ZILFER! PLEASE LEARN TO SPELL GRAY WITH AN A FOR THE THIRD LETTER INSTEAD OF AN E!  |
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Post by Zilfer Of Shadows... on Jun 26, 2006 19:56:02 GMT -5
BTW No george lucas cannot say they never existed becuase his company made grey jedi duh. It's in kotor 2 in a description of a robe. also clearly you guys are far to gone on one side or the other no willing to give any ground to the other. That would be the reason you guys can't see what the grey jedi want plus numours other statements i have stated.
yeah if that sounds crappy dying from a jedi sounds crappier espicaly when a true sith never dies.
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Post by Zilfer Of Shadows... on Jun 26, 2006 19:56:54 GMT -5
P.S. grey can be spelled either way look it up in dictionary. thank you come again.
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Post by MikDaTv on Jul 3, 2006 22:46:16 GMT -5
ok, i'm not going to read all this but i will post my own thought on the force, which come right from wookipedia.
the force is two parts. the physical field that binds and surrounds everything, and the living force, the part that guids the future and is inteligant.
the jedi see the force as an ally, an equal relationship where the jedi commune with the force and help it grow and in return the force grants them their power.
the Sith and dark jedi believe that the force is a tool, something to be used to their own ends.
as for which is stronger... lets consider. Emperor palps, quite possibly the strongest sith ever, was defeated by a hald mechanical, one handed man and a farm boy. Sith empires throughout Star Wars history died because they were destroyed by the forces of light or crumbled from the inside.
not to mention that the dark side makes you ugly. who wants to be ugly?
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Post by philly on Jul 4, 2006 21:31:27 GMT -5
The dark side doesn't make you ugly, it makes you pimp. Just look at the avatar, fuckin pimp!
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Post by MikDaTv on Jul 11, 2006 0:00:09 GMT -5
If...
A) the force is an energy field created by all living things
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B) the Sith wish to kill all weak forms of life
i conclude that the Sith will ultimatly make themselves weaker by destroying the very source of their power... life.
Now... as to wich side is stronger.
what takes more power to do. construct a building, give birth, heal a wounded person OR Destroy a building, kill someone or let a wounded person die.
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Post by philly on Jul 11, 2006 0:27:52 GMT -5
We can all agree that some ppl are strong in the force and some are not. The Sith destroy the weak to take what little power they have and add it to their own. As was the case with Nihilus, all life exists to feed my power. The force will always be there, whether it is held by a few very powerful beings or many weaker ones. The ultimate goal of a Sith Lord is to possess as much as possible for themselves, the natural first step is to destroy the weak...then the strong. And its not what takes more power for you to do, its what gives you more power  |
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Post by MikDaTv on Jul 11, 2006 0:42:36 GMT -5
i disagree that some are strong in the force and some arn't
i'm a yodaist. i feel that the force is equal in everyone, but some learn to use it faster and in more diverse ways then others.
like yoda, he is more experienced in the force then a padawan, which is why in a force fight he would win. its why obi wan beat anakin, anakin was stronger, but stupid.
and the one thing i never understand about this survival of the fittest rule is
A) would that not mean that at the end there would be only one... the strongest. thats a poor end to humanity
and B) people as a whole, are stronger. an ant colony is stronger then the individual ants. if only the strong of us were to be alive, our streangth as a whole diminishes, so once again, the survival of the fitest rule diminsihes humanity.
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Post by philly on Jul 11, 2006 0:52:42 GMT -5
As far as strength in the force goes, I think we'll have to agree to disagree there. Why was Anakin stronger? Because he had a stronger connection to the force, however I agree he did lose because he was stupid. Power without wisdom will always lead to death.
A) As to you not understanding the survival of the fittist, I think you are missing the whole point. That point being that it is not humanity in which you are trying to strengthen, it is yourself. A poor fate for humanity yes, a great fate for me. ;D
B) If I may borrow some words of wisdom from the great film "Men in Black" *ahem* "A person is strong; people are unorganized, panicy, dangerous beings and you know it." The people as a whole are only as strong as the weakest link in the chain. The more you weed out the weak, the stronger the chain becomes.
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